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The one and only time I actually flew a plane (a Texan T-6 through a company called Warbird Rides) I wore my GMT Master II. If only cellphone wrist shots were a thing back in the late 90s!

Also, come find me on Peloton, boys! If you can beat me in a ride I'll send ya a six pack of your favorite beer! @Marion_Cobretti

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You guys referred to the Citizen Nighthawk as having a "24 hour display"- it's actually a GMT function with an independently adjustable hour hand, i.e. "True" GMT. Makes it all the more of a great watch at a great price!

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Fantastic episode as usual! Has anyone seen the Sinn 105 UTC in person? I love the concept of the watch, but the dial just looks a little 1 dimensional in photos.

I know James did a quick write up on Hodinkee, but I am curious as to how it looks. Cheers

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I've got the black dial and love it. The black is matte but with a hint of grey sometimes, very similar to the 103 if you're familiar with that. It wears great!! It gives me minimalist, Nomos-y vibes in a good way. It does have applied indices, so it doesn't come off as one dimensional in person, imo.

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Jan 26, 2022·edited Jan 26, 2022

Regarding Peloton, my wife and I have had one for about three years now. I REALLY like it. Yes, it's quite a bit of money up front for the bike but $40 for the content is honestly a steal. My wife and I were paying $80/month each to go to the gym before the pandemic and I was going 2-3 times per week. Now we pay $40/month for the both of us and we use the app or the bike daily, sometimes even multiple times per day. And the content goes way beyond the bike. There's cardio, strength, running, yoga, meditation, etc. If you can stomach the cost of the bike (or the tread), I think it's a worthwhile investment.

Side note, as Daniel mentioned, Peloton stock has taken a beating over the past few months. They overproduced product in response to the pandemic and the demand just isn't there anymore. I highly doubt they will fold as a company but if I were them I would lower the price of the equipment and up the cost of the monthly fee (the printer and ink model). So it may be worth holding off for a bit to see if they drop the price of the equipment to unload some of their inventory.

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I use a Wahoo Kickr Core and love it. I do Zwift and other things like that in front of a big screen TV and it works great.

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As always, a good episode. Enjoyed the watch stuff as well as the non-watch.

Not to pile on, but this hasn't been the best week for Peleton. Probably best to stick with the app for now and not invest in a bike that might become an expensive coat rack....

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/20/peloton-to-pause-production-of-its-bikes-treadmills-as-demand-wanes.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/22/peloton-stock-future/

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/20/business/peloton-stock.html?searchResultPosition=2

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As an instrument rated private pilot and a pilot watch enthusiast, it pains me to say that pilots watches are all but useless to pilots today. But one complication is helpful for pre-flight planning: a UTC complication. All aviation weather is provided in UTC, making a second timezone on your watch incredibly handy for planning.

Days are (thankfully) gone when an anti-magnetic chronometer, a chart, and compass were used to dead-reckon your location. Few airplanes have actual human navigators now, so their need for an accurate chronograph are gone too. Still, every time I get in my plane, I strap on a "pilots watch" and thank the heavens I don't have to rely on it for anything.

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Not to be that guy, but I would recommend careful consideration before using the Mi band if you are at all worried about your privacy and what the Chinese government is doing with your biometric and other information. The Mozilla Foundation and others have found that they are taking your browsing and phone use as well.

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For anyone looking to fly under the radar with a pilot's watch (excuse the pun), Stowa (and others like it) offer a minimal and discrete option in a 36mm traditional Flieger. The dial manages to be historic but modern, and at a petite size, shadows the chicness of a well-made field watch. It lacks complications, but offers excellent lume and captivating blue-steeled hands - a tool tradition with Bauhaus design elements. Stowa even is comfortable enough to offer a nameless dial for the true minimalists. To build on James's sartorial view, the smaller Flieger's simplicity and easy-wear elegance matches up with nicely with those Blundstone boots and leather or waxed cotton jacket. Cheers.

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I just grabbed the 38mm Hamilton Khaki (H69439531), what does everyone recommend for a strap for this? And for NATO specifically? Right now it's on an extra Toxic NATO I had laying around. Thx!

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I got the fully blacked-out PVD one and have it on a Guraga black NATO with matte black PVD hardware. Something like that but with gunmetal hardware would probably look really good

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Thank you!

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James,

Have you seen this ("Peloton needs a minute") about Peleton's financials? Not to speak ill of Peleton, they make a solid product that people really love. Rather, if you are looking for a deal on a new bike, it may coming soon.

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/FMfcgzGmtXJFLrhftVVSWLdzdhWbwRxL

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If you want Fitness and Health metrics, when you should train, when you should rest, amazing sleep data. Then the Whoop 4.0 is what you want. No screen, just a fabric strap and small sensor. I've been using Whoop for over 2 years. It's fantastic

Get a free WHOOP 4.0 and your first month free when you join with my link: https://join.whoop.com/712EB7

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I have looked at Whoop as I feel they are one of the best options for those of us that can not do without our regular watch on the wrist. My concern is that I am not sure I need yet another subscription. If they offered a full price option with the band and access to the application I would be all in.

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The hardware is free. If you pay for 18 moths subscription up front then you pay ~€300. Just pretend that's the price of the hardware and there's no subscription 😁

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Yeah, good episode! I think there is a whole subcategory that you touched on that could be it’s own topic - pilot chronographs. You hit Breitling, for example.

At the high end, there are the Breguet XX and (even higher end) the IWC Top Gun Perpetual Calendar Mojave Desert.

There are a ton of awesome pilot chronographs in the middle - my ultimate is the Omega Speedmaster Pro Moonwatch. Timing the Apollo 13 motor burn is the ultimate pilot flex, amiright? There are also a number of brands modeled on the Type XX for around $5K US.

At the low end, the best bang for buck out there in my book is the Hamilton Khaki Pilot Pioneer Automatic. It’s a tribute to the asymmetric chronographs that Hamilton supplied to the UK MoD and comes with Hamilton’s H31 (7753-derived) movement - and is available new (for now) for $900 US from a few reputable sources. I have one that lives on my TGN NATO, it turns out. It actually gets more wrist time than my Speedy Pro….

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I know it has been a while since the guys did a one brand deep-dive episode...Breitling?

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A quick suggestion on a fitness band if you already like the Garmin ecosystem, their Vivosmart 4. I have been using mine for 2 years and would buy a new one right away should it ever to stop working. It cost 2x of the Xiaomi, but you get to stay with Garmin and their app: https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/605739

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I've been double wristing the Vivosmart, current and previous gen, for at least 4-5 years. I was one of those guys on the bike that if it didn't get on Strava, it didn't happen, so I was deep into the Garmin ecosystem with their Edge bike computers. When I transitioned to soccer, mostly indoor, I had to find a solution to fill my metrics urge. The Vivosmart is small enough to hide under tape, so OK to wear in matches. And it satisfies corporate fitness tracking and sleep tracking for me. When I actually run for fitness I wear a Garmin vivoactive, and double wrist the vivoactive and a Gshock when reffing.

Love the Garmin ecosystem, and would second this rec for James and Jason.

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Another entertaining show. Happy to support James & Jason (a fellow Minnesotan) after many years of listening.

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Just started this episode, and good stuff as always! I'm a pretty regular "double wrister", so it was very reaffirming to hear James mention the idea of a "real" watch on one wrist, and fitness tracker on the other. I typically wear one of my mechanicals opposite my Garmin Vivosmart, and then switch to only my Fenix 6X for mountain biking, longer hikes, runs, etc. Good stuff! For what its worth, most of those fitness trackers can broadcast HR data which can be paired with a Peloton (app or actual bike). Keep up the good work guys! This episode reminded me of a great story from another podcast: https://www.fighterpilotpodcast.com/musing/the-watch/

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